Willow Springs Road Crossing Safety Measures Proposed as Stopgap
The La Grange Board of Trustees is largely supportive of interim measures for making the crossing to LT South Campus safer, but currently “do not have a solution.”
A much safer crossing is slated to come to Willow Springs Road between Denning Park and Lyons Township High School South Campus sometime in 2014, complete with traffic signal—but a year and a half is too far away for some.
La Grange resident and mom Nora Valentino is leading the appeal, appearing before the La Grange Board of Trustees on Monday to declare that the status quo on Willow Springs Road is a disaster waiting to happen.
“Mid-2014 is too long to wait to take action,” Valentino said. “Traffic is too fast and it causes problems crossing the road… Waiting to cross is frustrating for the students and can lead to poor decisions and eventually an accident.”
Valentino added that traffic on Willow Springs Road is neglectful of the needs of student pedestrians because of a lack of police presence, as well as adequate signage. She contrasted the crossing to Plainfield Road around Highlands schools, where she said the presence of uniformed guards results in better-behaved drivers.
Additionally, Valentino added, a new path through Denning Park meant to lead pedestrians to the future site of the crosswalk is now commonly used, but leads to no crossing—prompting dangerous jaywalking behavior. She said that the marked crosswalks (like at 47th Street, well out of the way) are little safer.
She found some support from trustees Michael Horvath, Bill Holder and Jim Palermo, all of whom expressed agreement that the village should look into stopgap measures while agreements for the 2014 improvements are being finalized.
Palermo said he’d “got a flavor” for the difficulty of crossing Willow Springs when attending Friday night’s Lyons Township football game, and raised the specter of the May 2009 pedestrian death on 47th Street near 9th Avenue. Horvath pointed out that students are unlikely to detour two blocks out of their way to cross at an intersection.
Holder suggested that parents might consider staffing a crossing-guard patrol, saying that “if my child were still at South Campus, I’d be out there with a stop sign that I stenciled myself.”
But the problems of stopgap steps are myriad.
One of the biggest, Village staff said, is the proximity of Adventist La Grange Memorial Hospital, and the necessity of maintaining Willow Springs Road as a corridor for emergency vehicles. This means no yellow signs in the middle of the street like on 47th—even temporarily during major student foot traffic hours.
As for police presence, Village President Liz Asperger repeatedly noted that police make every effort to enforce traffic laws, but have many critical locations throughout the village to patrol—and that financial realities do not support any extra staff or staff time.
Village Manager Bob Pilipiszyn also noted that any additional measures might cost money—like an $80,000 pedestrian-activated flashing light—and then be wiped away in a year and a half when the traffic light is installed.
“The discussion continues at this point in time, [but] they have not come up with additional interim solutions that have been found to be safe or suggestive of a proper way to proceed,” Asperger said.
“At this point in time, we do not appear to have a solution in the interim pending the signalization project.”
Stephanie Holt
8:53 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
The crosswalk is horribly dangerous not only for pedestrians, but also for drivers. After dark it is nearly impossible to see someone beginning to cross, and if you stop suddenly because someone is in the crosswalk, drivers behind you cannot see why you are stopping, and will nearly hit you. There needs to be a stop sign, or a light, or at the very least, a street light so the crosswalk is well lit. As for Willow Springs being an emergency route, I see no reason there couldn't be a yellow pedestrian crossing sign placed in the middle of the street, as a visual reminder for the crossing. Placed in the middle of the lanes, it wouldn't interfere with any vehicles.
ElizabethKeeth
2:23 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
The article mentions the yellow signs arenot allowed bc of the hospital.
ElizabethKeeth
2:24 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
One of the biggest, Village staff said, is the proximity of Adventist La Grange Memorial Hospital, and the necessity of maintaining Willow Springs Road as a corridor for emergency vehicles. This means no yellow signs in the middle of the street like on 47th—even temporarily during major student foot traffic hours.
Darren McRoy
2:42 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Correct, Elizabeth--that's what was said at the meeting.
Ben
10:01 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Why would it take a year and a half to put up a button-activated red light?
We construct large buildings from the ground up in less time than that. And how many traffic lights will be installed/repaired in that time in New York and New Jersey after the hurricane?
This seems more to be a question about priorities: kids trying to cross the street safely seem to be less important than any number of things. Let's get our representatives to change priorities. It's not that complicated.
Darren McRoy
11:51 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
It's all about regulations and finances. It doesn't help that you need to get La Grange, Western Springs, LTHS and IDOT all on the same page... and then work out who funds it, who pays for it, etc. Government projects require government bureaucracy.
Garry Watkins
10:07 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
How about a walking bridge over the roadway? It would be safe, wouldn't interfere with normal traffic and wouldn't impede emergency traffic.
Darren McRoy
11:53 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Great idea, but, sadly, it'd cost a fortune. And neither the state nor La Grange are exactly flush with cash right now. :-(
Joseph R. Martan
10:36 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Excuse me...but haven't the parents taught their teenagers how to cross a busy street - and wait for traffic to pass, if necessary? Gilbert Avenue IS a busy street, especially in the area where traffic from the Garden Market exits, traffic exits from the high school and you have the entrance to LaGrange Hospital. Put a stop light here and you are going to create a real traffic gridlock - and that inconveniences the intended users of Gilbert Avenue - motorists. I'm getting a little tired of the ever present group of soccer moms who expect everything to be changed and altered to the convenience of their little darlings. "Waiting to cross is frustrating for the students and can lead to poor decisions and eventually an accident.” How about teaching your teenagers proper conduct when crossing the street instead of rationalizing their carelessness and expecting everyone else to accomodate?
Stephanie Holt
1:13 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
There really is no break in the traffic flow, for all the reasons you listed. Traffic from the school, Garden Market, the hospital. And for drivers, the crosswalk is difficult to see until you are right on top of it. At night - impossible. A flashing red light that could be activated just when someone needs to cross would not stop traffic flow for more than a minute or two. It would make things safer not just for students, but for adults as well. It's not just kids crossing at that corner - there are adults trying to get to the Market, and families attending school functions and sports events at night.
Chuck Lichtenauer
8:20 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
How about teaching drivers to be more aware, respectful and drive defensively i.e. SLOW DOWN going through this area. Everyone is in such a hurry to get to where they are going they are not looking for anyone trying to get out into traffic or cross an intersection.
Billy Gallagher
3:20 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Do you not all understand the economic realities of the failed State of IL and what the corrupt politicians have done to us all? The cash is not there to install any of these things. And, I agree with Joseph that common sense needs to prevail. I in fact crossed that same street to get to LT 30 years ago and it was fine then and fine now. Another fact, I have a kid at South now. And I am not concerned. Grow a set, people. The over abundance of stop signs, invisible fence warning signs, "caution, the beverage you are about to enjoy is HOT" signs, etc. all add up to a coddled populace that needs to stop litigating, stop whining and start acting responsible, in all areas.
Ben
7:51 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
This is a joke, right?
If a kid gets hurt or killed by a speeding, texting driver, you'd tell the dead kid to "grow a set" because things like stop signs and speed limits are for sissies?
I'm guessing that you're still alive to comment on a board like this because someone has been taking care of the Metra crossing gates. Ya sissy.
Billy Gallagher
8:56 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Ben,
I suggest you read this story:
http://www.mgexperience.net/article/nice-drive.html
Perhaps you will learn to understand that more regulations does not equal better living.
Marilyn Mathieson
7:32 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Do those who direct traffic have to be full blown police men? During the busiest hours some help needs to be in place. A year an a half is too long to wait. Every night football game was a nightmare. People running across Williow Springs Rd while Westen Springs police sat in their cars behind Dominick's making sure no one parked there. Seemed to be a terrible misuse of resources to me.
Susan R.
8:14 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
I agree that the crossing could be made easier and safer, but I'm confused about the importance of doing something RIGHT NOW. Has there been a large increase in the number of people trying to cross the street? Has anyone actually been hurt making the crossing or is this only a case of someone could get hurt? It seems to me that we are working towards making an improvement that will take time and we should be thankful that it is being addressed instead of angry that something that we hadn't previously noticed isn't fixed already.
Mouse
7:57 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
Susan, this is typical LT parent behavior. Their precious little darlings can't possibly be at fault for anything so we waste almost $100K in tax money on something that does absolutely nothing to solve the nonexistent problem. Have you looked at your property tax bill? Are you as outraged as most are at how much money this school district spends? A good chunk of it is due to parents like the one behind this fiasco.
Mouse
7:55 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
It doesn't matter. The kids cross wherever they want to and I've had them run out in front of my car in groups, laughing while looking right at the drivers. Put in a traffic light and they'll do the same thing. You want to stop it? Put up a fence along Willow Springs on the LTHS side with only one opening at the crosswalk. And enforce the existing regulations against jaywalking. Of course you won't do either and expect the least at fault people here--drivers--to carry both the expense and the hassle of this absurd waste of money while the kids keep doing what they always do.
Joseph R. Martan
10:54 am on Monday, November 19, 2012
How true, how true. But of course we can't disappoint the pushy soccer moms - they might throw a temper tantrum if they don't get their way.